Adam Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Switzerlineker said: Yes - doesn't make the statement any less true though It certainly doesn't. I just want us to prolong the discussion involving Hamilton's failure . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Lineker Posted July 4, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Eric Boullier has stepped down as part of a major restructuring at McLaren. (More likely they sacked him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsuya Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Andrew Benson (BBC guy) apparently saying that Leclerc is confirmed for Ferrari next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Lineker Posted July 6, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 I mean it's going to happen but I'll wait to hear it from someone more credible than Benson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Lineker Posted July 6, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Quote Formula 1's Strategy Group has discussed awarding points down to 20th place instead of just the top 10, with a compromise of the top 15 among the possible alternatives. F1's new management is continuing to explore possible changes to the sporting regulations, some of which could be introduced before 2021, when the major package of technical changes comes on stream. "They're considering whether the points system should go all the way down to 20," said Force India boss Vijay Mallya. "Every car scores a point if they finish the race. The bottom starts with one point and then goes up. "Or whether 10 should be extended down to 15. All these discussions took place." One of the motivations for the change would be to give drivers outside the top 10 an extra incentive to race hard, but the alternative view is that the current system offers a greater sense of reward. "The point that was made is that there's a certain panache at being referred to as finishing in the top 10," Mallya told Autosport. "That will get diluted if you start giving points down the line. "When we do well all my friends send me messages saying, 'Congratulations, another top 10 finish.' Top 10 has a certain sense of achievement to it. "The counter point that was made was that if every driver gets a point, all the way down to the bottom, then every car is going to be racing for a point. "So at the end of the day nobody is going to stop pushing the limits just because they're outside the top 10 and there is no reward at the end. "There was a suggestion to make it up to 15. There is obviously going to be more debate. This was based on research that was done." Consideration is also being given to the return of points for fastest lap for the first time since 1959, or pole position being rewarded too - ideas Mallya says "are up in the air". For the first 10 years of the world championship from 1950 points were only awarded only for the top five finishers, with an extra point for fastest lap. That was extended to the top six from 1960 until 2002, with the fastest lap bonus dropped, and then to the top eight from 2003-'09. The current system, with 25 for a win and the top 10 all scoring, was introduced in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Fuck that. I can't think of anything that will discourage racing in the midfield more than either of those plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meacon Keaton Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 It’s definitely an interesting proposal. I found it odd only the top 10 got points when I first started watching, because I grew up on NASCAR, where even the 43rd car got points. Since I was raised that way, it makes the most sense to me. Say a driver finishes 11th, he should get more credit for that in the standings than if he finished 19th or 20th. That said, you either keep it the way it is or you make it so everyone gets points. Giving points to the Top-15 seems stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 I hate the idea. Making it 10 places made sense. Having everyone earning points just devalues it all, I really hate the idea. I like a lot of what they've proposed since taking over but this is a huge thumbs down from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 The only thing that might be a bit better if it were to happen is that one lucky 11th place in a sea of 20th places doesn't suddenly make you a better driver in the standings than a driver that had multiple 12th places as their highest marks. But I also feel that if you look at the current standings, everyone but Sirotkin has gotten at least a point so reaching the top 10 isn't an impossible task even for the bottom feeders like Williams, Sauber, or Toro Rosso. I honestly feel that the current system just works though, and whilst it might motivate some drivers/teams to push even when a 10th spot is impossible, the effect will be neglible whilst kinda debasing the accomplishment of scoring points. I feel top 10 is just right in this day and age of extreme reliability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 The evil side of me really does enjoy that every time Stroll or Sirotkin make a mistake the F1 production crew immediately have a camera on Robert Kubica watching in the garage. And of course Stroll has been a complete dick as him spinning off and the subsequent red flag means that the final five minutes of qualifying now clash with the football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 If you want even more silly season news, there's reports that Lawrence Stroll wants to buy Force India so that he can give Lance a guaranteed seat next season. 😐 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 If he did that and replaced either Ocon or Perez with his barely talented son it may be one of the most pathetic things in the history of F1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meacon Keaton Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 Stroll doesn’t realize this is F1. He thinks it’s pee-wee basketball or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Lineker Posted July 8, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 That C4 Back to the Future piece with Murray Walker was spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA! Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 On 06/07/2018 at 19:07, Switzerlineker said: Quote Formula 1's Strategy Group has discussed awarding points down to 20th place instead of just the top 10, with a compromise of the top 15 among the possible alternatives. F1's new management is continuing to explore possible changes to the sporting regulations, some of which could be introduced before 2021, when the major package of technical changes comes on stream. "They're considering whether the points system should go all the way down to 20," said Force India boss Vijay Mallya. "Every car scores a point if they finish the race. The bottom starts with one point and then goes up. "Or whether 10 should be extended down to 15. All these discussions took place." One of the motivations for the change would be to give drivers outside the top 10 an extra incentive to race hard, but the alternative view is that the current system offers a greater sense of reward. "The point that was made is that there's a certain panache at being referred to as finishing in the top 10," Mallya told Autosport. "That will get diluted if you start giving points down the line. "When we do well all my friends send me messages saying, 'Congratulations, another top 10 finish.' Top 10 has a certain sense of achievement to it. "The counter point that was made was that if every driver gets a point, all the way down to the bottom, then every car is going to be racing for a point. "So at the end of the day nobody is going to stop pushing the limits just because they're outside the top 10 and there is no reward at the end. "There was a suggestion to make it up to 15. There is obviously going to be more debate. This was based on research that was done." Consideration is also being given to the return of points for fastest lap for the first time since 1959, or pole position being rewarded too - ideas Mallya says "are up in the air". For the first 10 years of the world championship from 1950 points were only awarded only for the top five finishers, with an extra point for fastest lap. That was extended to the top six from 1960 until 2002, with the fastest lap bonus dropped, and then to the top eight from 2003-'09. The current system, with 25 for a win and the top 10 all scoring, was introduced in 2010. They may as well go full whack. Hardly any racing during the race itself now. In fact, have qualifying as the main race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 I'm sure most of you are celebrating, but Kimi has got to be punished for that. That said, Lewis needs to stop whining on the radio and get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Tactical Kimi! I do like Hamilton saying his car is 'broken' as he keeps easily outbraking the midfield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meacon Keaton Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 This has been one of the better races that I can remember over the last few months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLiam Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Unbelievable ending to this GP. What a move from Vettel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meacon Keaton Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Vettel’s move to take first was fantastic, as was Kimi’s to take third. Great race this week. I really liked this track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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