The 2011/12 Gary Speed Memorial Thread

[Baddar]

Those damn United players!

[Matt]

There's no Newcastle players on there.

[Cymbols]

Demba Ba should've been in with a shout.

[Starvinho]

Early odds:

PFA Player of the Year odds: Van Persie 1/4, Silva 6-1, Rooney 6-1, Aguero 9/1, Parker 25/1 & Hart 33/1

PFA Young Player of the Year odds: Aguero 5/4, Welbeck 5/2, Bale 5/2, Walker 8/1, Oxlade-Chamberlain 12/1, Sturridge 16/1

Van Persie is overwhelming favourite, be shocking if he didn't win it.

[MJB]

No idea how Welbeck made that list, let alone joint second favourite.

[Summers]

Decent odds on Kun for young player. He's gotta win it.

[Summers]

No idea how Welbeck made that list, let alone joint second favourite.

[Starvinho]

I think Welbeck has had an excellent season, he's a player who rarely has a bad game and his work off the ball goes uncredited. I think he deserves his nomination.

[Summers]

He's played alright in a (potentially) title winning United side.

That's about it.

He's good, and getting better. But to be 2nd fav to win it?

[Blaze09]

It's most likely because I've watched next to none Man U games this year, but Rooney over Valencia seems crazy to me.

[Gazz]

Is the shortlist drawn from the players nominations or does the PFA board decide them?

[Starvinho]

He's played alright in a (potentially) title winning United side.

That's about it.

He's good, and getting better. But to be 2nd fav to win it?

You've got a point about being second fav, Aguero, Bale and Walker would be ahead of him in my opinion. But he definitely deserves his nomination.

[Baddar]

No you're right, no Valencia nomination is a bit shit.

[Starvinho]

Only thing I can say about Valencia is he didn't really come into form until December/January and then was injured for 6 weeks in February/March too. Probably didn't do enough in the season as a whole.

[ChrisSteeleAteMyHamster]

Aguero's a wonderful player.

[DavidMarrio]

I'd probably say Valencia not being on there is a bit shocking.

Problem I have with say Silva and Aguero being nominated is they had a bit of a period where they faded during the season compared to players like Valencia who has been consistently good throughout the season.

Van Persie has to win the Player of the Year and either Aguero/Walker for me in the Young Player of the Year. Also dunno why but it kinda annoys me when someone is nominated for both awards.

[Whisper]

I'm not saying he's not but it just seemed over the top the way they did it and what they showed from the game today. It just seemed a bit too much, anyone would think it was his birthday or he was retiring (again) or something.

Tired of the "Paul Scholes makes 5 yard passes, it isn't that hard" crap.

What other English player can make those 5 yard passes without giving the ball away? Not one. Hence why, when we play any notable country, we're shown up for being totally unable to keep the ball. Hell, most of the so-called "lesser" nations keep the ball better than we do.

[ChrisSteeleAteMyHamster]

I'm not saying he's not but it just seemed over the top the way they did it and what they showed from the game today. It just seemed a bit too much, anyone would think it was his birthday or he was retiring (again) or something.

Tired of the "Paul Scholes makes 5 yard passes, it isn't that hard" crap.

What other English player can make those 5 yard passes without giving the ball away? Not one. Hence why, when we play any notable country, we're shown up for being totally unable to keep the ball. Hell, most of the so-called "lesser" nations keep the ball better than we do.

Scotty Parker. (Y) He also tackles better, but Scholes has a better long pass and shot.

[Starvinho]

I'm not saying he's not but it just seemed over the top the way they did it and what they showed from the game today. It just seemed a bit too much, anyone would think it was his birthday or he was retiring (again) or something.

Tired of the "Paul Scholes makes 5 yard passes, it isn't that hard" crap.

What other English player can make those 5 yard passes without giving the ball away? Not one. Hence why, when we play any notable country, we're shown up for being totally unable to keep the ball. Hell, most of the so-called "lesser" nations keep the ball better than we do.

Michael Carrick

[Matt]

I'm not saying he's not but it just seemed over the top the way they did it and what they showed from the game today. It just seemed a bit too much, anyone would think it was his birthday or he was retiring (again) or something.

Tired of the "Paul Scholes makes 5 yard passes, it isn't that hard" crap.

What other English player can make those 5 yard passes without giving the ball away? Not one. Hence why, when we play any notable country, we're shown up for being totally unable to keep the ball. Hell, most of the so-called "lesser" nations keep the ball better than we do.

Off the top of my head: