Rich Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 The only way those mentalities change is if there's an incentive not to train like a madman. Right now a fighter gets injured and they go ''Ok, we'll replace you and you can fight when you're better.'' And nothing happens, the big names have enough cash to survive those 3 months out of action and those 3 months getting back into fighting shape. From what I know about pro fighting. When the contract is signed, the fighters get a stipend up front, and that means whatever happens they got money to survive an injury. And whilst that's a good thing, that's also a bad thing, because that means fighters can go ''I will train like a madman, because if I get injured I can live off the up-front money.'' For what it's worth, fighters need to be punished both in their wallet, and professionally for getting injured in training too often. Less title shots, less money for those that essentially train too hard. And do the reverse for fighters that in turn train smart and actually make it to their fights in one piece. Almost everything you have said is wrong. Everytime a fighter gets injutred they DO NOT think "Ok, it's no big, I can fight again in xmonths" The cost to them is huge, first of all they are missing out on a payday of several thousand dollars to several hundred thousand dollars, they have already paid their training costs (they pay their training and sparring partners a wage for the length of a training camp) and if they are missing out on a big fight it can cost them recognition, share of gate and/or PPV buy. Barely any fighters get a signing bonus upfront for their contracts unless they are coming in with at least some fan fare or are already an established name in the UFC, bottom of the card fighters often have to work full time jobs to supplement their fight card income. In this way losing the income, plus the training camp costs already incurred plus their additional cost of living for the months before they next fight can leave some fighters really poor if they get injured, on top of if the injury is even more serious they may have nothing to fall back on for even longer. Their medical costs if employed by the UFC now get covered, but that doesn't mean their living costs do and then they must scrimp to get by, hope that they have a sponsor who will support them, or lean on family and friends. Even today, I would argue that, barely anyone gets in to the business of MMA to get rich. The fighters do get punished in the wallet for being injured, they do not get paid their turn up fee, they do not recieve any sponsorship fee and if you're not fighting its hard to maintain public and fan interest in you... Turning up to fight gets you paid, in the UFC they give out quite good discretionary bonuses which you rarely hear of, on top of the perfromance of the night bonuses for being an exciting fighter. The incentive is already their to turn up injured and fight anyway, I would argue fighters are being smarter by pulling out of fights when they are injured rather than trying to gut it up and fight through the pain barrier. Even if you train smart, the amount of multi-discipline trainign required, in such a highly competitive and violent sport as MMA, it will turn out that there will be a high proportion of injuries and older injuries will be prone to aggravation., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 UFC are booking like it's WMMA3. Conor will face Denis Siver and if he wins, he'll get a title shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Is the Boston card on big FOX? Jury-Cerrone is going to be on that card as well. Why Siver is getting Conor is the most transparent booking ever. Especially with Lentz calling Conor out the whole time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 It'll be on FS1, five round main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymbols Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 So Aldo/Mendes isn't half bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieG Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Most rounds could've gone either way, not too upset with those scores.. good fight though, nice to see Aldo and Faber having a chat at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Anderson Silva has signed a pointless new 15 fight contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymbols Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 If Dominick Cruz beats TJ Dillashaw, would Mendes drop down to 135 do you think? Can't see what's next for him otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Hope that McGregor beats Aldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forky Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Anderson Silva has signed a pointless new 15 fight contract I was really hoping he'd just go quietly into the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieG Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Didn't he still have like 8 or 9 fights left on that huge contract he signed a couple years back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 It's a token contract, neither side have an obligation to fulfil it, it just there as an indication that he will most definitely end his career in the UFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 You guys know he's not going to fight another 8 or 9 or 15 times, right? Dude's 39 next year, he's not going to be facing the Phil Davises of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forky Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 I was just hoping he wouldn't come back. I can't think of anyone at this point that I would enjoy seeing him face to be honest. I definitely don't want to see Silva vs Weidman III. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieG Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 I was just hoping he wouldn't come back. I can't think of anyone at this point that I would enjoy seeing him face to be honest. I definitely don't want to see Silva vs Weidman III. He's facing Nick Diaz in January, as has been known for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forky Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 I knew it had been a possibility but didn't realize it had actually been signed as I thought Nick recently got in trouble or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Silva vs. Diaz is going to be fun as fuck. I'm hoping we get Silva vs. Vitor II too, because I kinda' want to see Vitor get his head kicked in again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Any chance of Silva vs Gazz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieG Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 There was a chance. Gazz immediately tapped out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Gazz broke his knee on the way to the contract signing, Spider win by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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