The Mafia Discussion Thread

[Josh]

It's true, Sousa would never read it there.

[Gongsun Zan]

Wow, Josh is old. Like, even older than Sousa old.

[Josh]

That's mathematically impossible. I am precisely the same age as myself.

[naiwf]

Can someone explain the jester role to me? Thanks.

[Ruki]

Your goal is to get lynched.

[stokeriño]

Wow, deja vu. >_>

[-A-]

The Mafia Resource Thread has most of the basic roles, if you need to check up on anything.

[Josh]

Can someone explain the jester role to me? Thanks.

It's a role that should never be included. Ever.

The only role that tops it terms of pure uselessness, suckitude, and "why the hell did someone create this abomination" is the Beloved Princess.

Worst role ever.

[Sousa]

Jobber Mafia II had an awesome Beloved Princess role. It was Ric Flair.

[Josh]

DOES NOT COMPUTE.

[Mr Evil Guy]

The fuck is a beloved princess?

You kids and your drugs & beloved princesses.

[MalaCloudy Black]

It's a role where when they die the next day phase is skipped "because everyone's at her funeral". So you go from night phase where s/he's killed to another night phase.

[Josh]

A Beloved Princess is a town role. If killed, the game goes through 2 nights in a row, skipping the day in between. It basically fucks over the town.

[Sousa]

Also the town won Jobber Mafia II.

So neener.

[-A-]

Doesn't offend me to the core like death millers or jesters, but it does seem a bit arbitrary. The town frequently hasn't done anything to deserve it, so it's better if it's a lynch-prompted thing only. That way the whole town can be 'stricken with guilt' or something.

Since they've come up a lot recently, what's the thinking on 'find and kill Player X to win' conditions? It seems like they hardly ever require serious worthy-of-winning-the-game skill. Half the time it's because the target claims or gets investigated and you've really done nothing significant. Even when you guess someone based on logic, it's rarely such an amazing play that you've really deserved to win. If you're an investigator and you manage to pick a scum player out of nowhere, you frequently still lose. If you're the don and you manage to figure out who the vig is and kill him, you still frequently don't win. With the non-victory conditions, you can win the game based on one decision, which is often lucky.

Edited March 19, 2009 by -A-

[Mr Evil Guy]

I am going to make a Disney Princess mafia in which everyone is a beloved princess.

And Jobber Mafia II was sick. DMN, GoGo and (to a lesser extent) I wrecked shit.

[GoGo Yubari]

Don't forget FD and his ability to correctly predict who Ace would try to nightkill repeatedly during the endgame stage.

[naiwf]

Since they've come up a lot recently, what's the thinking on 'find a kill Player X to win' conditions? It seems like they hardly ever require serious worthy-of-winning-the-game skill. Half the time it's because the target claims or gets investigated and you've really done nothing significant. Even when you guess someone based on logic, it's rarely such an amazing play that you've really deserved to win. If you're an investigator and you manage to pick a scum player out of nowhere, you frequently still lose. If you're the don and you manage to figure out who the vig is and kill him, you still frequently don't win. With the non-victory conditions, you can win the game based on one decision, which is often lucky.

I don't like them. If a player had to kill 3 specific people or something like that then I could see it being a worthwhile win condition.

[Mr Evil Guy]

Don't forget FD and his ability to correctly predict who Ace would try to nightkill repeatedly during the endgame stage.

And then fuck up on the last night of the game to give me a win.

[GoGo Yubari]

Oh wait also allow me a minor "wait no that was retarded" thing.

Dear YoungB,

Going "lol ____" at someone for making a good play, correctly steering the town back to lynching an obviously scum player, and being honestly the best option as far as someone biting the bullet goes due to inactivity and no abilities to speak of is pretty retarded.

♥,

GoGo