NFL 2021

[LL!]

12 minutes ago, damshow said:

Welp

https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/john-harbaugh-is-moving-forward-with-greg-roman

What incriminating evidence does Greg Roman have in his possession I wonder?

[gunnar hendershow]

1 minute ago, LL! said:

What incriminating evidence does Greg Roman have in his possession I wonder?

I don't know but he's got it for both Harbaugh brothers.

[DMN in the House]

Josh McDaniels is your new Raiders coach.

He actually showed up this time!

Not my first choice, but maybe we'll get a nice reverse-Shanahan out of it.

[Maxx]

It’s so odd Jim Harbaugh was linked to several jobs, then nothing came of it, seemingly indicating he was going to stay in Michigan and then suddenly the Vikings out of nowhere are close to landing him.

[gunnar hendershow]

21 minutes ago, Maxx said:

It’s so odd Jim Harbaugh was linked to several jobs, then nothing came of it, seemingly indicating he was going to stay in Michigan and then suddenly the Vikings out of nowhere are close to landing him.

There only seems to be these formal announcements by teams when it's someone already employed by an NFL team. Urban Meyer also kind of came out of nowhere (after weeks of rumors).

[livid]

DeMeco Ryans also removed his name from consideration of that job and is going to be sticking around San Francisco so that's good news!

[The Buscher]

Cincinnati have announced public schools are closed the day after the Super Bowl which, by extension, will mean a lot of parents take off too and a lot of businesses decide to close.

Good for them.

[The Buscher]

Indications are the Bills pretty much made a mockery of the Rooney Rule and quickly interviewed two minority candidates for OC who had no shot so they could legally promote Dorsey to the job before any other teams talked to him.  As much as I understand the purpose of the rule, I feel like there should be exceptions for internal promotions because you're pretty much wasting the other candidates' time.

Anyway I don't blame him for sticking around Buffalo instead of heading to Jersey.  Pep Hamilton, Mike Kafka, and Chad O'Shea are the names now rumored to be in the running for Giants OC.  Very intrigued by the first two...O'Shea not so much, but he's got the closest Daboll connection.

[gunnar hendershow]

Yeah I saw they requested to interview Tee Martin and actually thought that he'd have a good shot. Feel like when things go belly-up with Greg Roman he's the next OC here.

[livid]

Brian Flores is suing the NFL and the NY Giants.

 

[gunnar hendershow]

Every black assistant denied a HC job should hop on and make this a full class action.

[Szumi]

Well Flores will never coach in the NFL again now

[Adam]

Is the Rooney Rule fit for purpose?

[gunnar hendershow]

The Rooney Rule is the Black Lives Matter sign in the window of addressing structural racism in hiring head coaches.

[The Buscher]

24 minutes ago, Adam said:

Is the Rooney Rule fit for purpose?

Unfortunately, a lot of black candidates are brought in for what are essentially token interviews with an owner/GM who already know who they want to hire.  They aren’t going into the interview with an open mind. The systemic issue is that networks around the league are still overwhelmingly white.

What’s happened with the Giants isn’t even the most egregious case.  While it violates the spirit of the rule, it makes sense that a guy brand new to a GM role wants to bring someone he has a close relationship with.  And the general reporting is that John Mara actually preferred Flores, but didn’t want to undercut his new GM.

The bigger issue as I see is that thanks to the good OL boys club, you have failed white head coaches getting multiple chances a lot sooner than black assistants do. 

[gunnar hendershow]

Even the loudest "hire black coaches" voices didn't seem to take particular exception with the Daboll hiring. Feeling him deserving for multiple football reasons and that it made sense with who the Giants brought on as their new GM.

For this to be the hire that creates a lawsuit is significant. Imagine how much other horrible shit has gone on with black candidates.

[GoGo Yubari]

9 minutes ago, damshow said:

The Rooney Rule is the Black Lives Matter sign in the window of addressing structural racism in hiring head coaches.

In This House, We Believe
Science Is Real
LOVE IS LOVE
Every NFL Team Must Interview at Least One Ethnic Minority Candidate for Head-Coaching and Senior Football Operation Positions
Kindness Is Everything
 

[Maxx]

wow terrible Giants organization.  Very shameful, not surprising. Contract the team.

[The Buscher]

10 minutes ago, damshow said:

Even the loudest "hire black coaches" voices didn't seem to take particular exception with the Daboll hiring. Feeling him deserving for multiple football reasons and that it made sense with who the Giants brought on as their new GM.

For this to be the hire that creates a lawsuit is significant. Imagine how much other horrible shit has gone on with black candidates.

Yep.  I know I’m being a bit selfish here but there’s already people calling for the Giants to be docked one of their first round draft picks and I’ll be fucking livid if the league does that.

[gunnar hendershow]

It'd be ridiculous in a world where Nathaniel Hackett and Josh McDaniels got railroaded to HC jobs because of their connections (or in Hackett's case perceived connections). Like you either punish all of them or none.