gunnar hendershow Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 In team sports I believe they refer to this as "refball". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 That is bloody shifty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerstyle Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 I’m not interested in racing but that seems like an absolute theft. You were x seconds behind before the crash and everything about the crash benefited you. Awful advert for racing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 There is absolutely no excuse for them to change the "lapped cars stay behind Lewis" to "lapped cars go past the safety car" decision without some kind of outside influence, or just absolute spinelessness. Oh fuck, as Ted pointed out, only 5 cars were allowed to unlap themselves, not every lapped car. What the fuck are they doing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 I like to think Latifi crashing was the Gods evening out Timo Glock letting his mate through to win the title on the last turn in 2008. That last lap today was one of the most dramatic, insane things I've ever seen in sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Now I know how Bret Hart felt that time 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnar hendershow Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Chris2K said: There is absolutely no excuse for them to change the "lapped cars stay behind Lewis" to "lapped cars go past the safety car" decision without some kind of outside influence, or just absolute spinelessness. Oh fuck, as Ted pointed out, only 5 cars were allowed to unlap themselves, not every lapped car. What the fuck are they doing? This is being pointed out on the US broadcast as well (maybe we get the same broadcast?). Basically randomly adjusting the rules to let Max and Lewis duel to the finish even though everyone knew if they did that Max would win due to better tires. There's been a ton of hype in the US thanks to "Drive to Survive" and this particular season has been one of the best ever. Honestly ending it on drama and controversy is better for its popularity here than ending it on a safety car that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Lineker Posted December 12, 2021 Author Admin Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Only just come off the ceiling. What an unbelievable championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 I wish I could be as gracious as Lewis Hamilton here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Race control changing their minds like a 14 year old grassroots football ref when an angry dad shouts at them enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 As a Dutchman, I should be happy with this. My parents were happy, my friends were raving mad, my brother was blowing up my phone. But i'm not happy, as a racer, as a racefan. This wasn't how anybody should win a title. I need to rethink my interest in this class of motorsport, because nobody should be winning a title on ratfucking by Race Control. This isn't on Max or Lewis, or Red Bull or Mercedes. But race control choosing to bend their own rulebook for the sake of entertainment, and for me that's against the very spirit of the competition. Happy for Max and RBR, but Lewis/Merc have a very genuine reason to feel fucked over by this. Because in no situation should it have ended this way. This should be a historical day, and for so many people it will be, for most people this won't affect their enjoyment one bit. But for me, I just feel a deep sadness and disappointment. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Carlos Sainz being just "yes I'm very happy with my podium and finishing 5th in the championship" is the sanity we need right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Well. It’s nice to see Sainz get a podium I guess. 2 minutes ago, Absolute JasonM said: As a Dutchman, I should be happy with this. My parents were happy, my friends were raving mad, my brother was blowing up my phone. But i'm not happy, as a racer, as a racefan. This wasn't how anybody should win a title. I need to rethink my interest in this class of motorsport, because nobody should be winning a title on ratfucking by Race Control. This isn't on Max or Lewis, or Red Bull or Mercedes. But race control choosing to bend their own rulebook for the sake of entertainment, and for me that's against the very spirit of the competition. Happy for Max and RBR, but Lewis/Merc have a very genuine reason to feel fucked over by this. Because in no situation should it have ended this way. Yeah I wanted Hamilton to win this one but all the same Verstappen is obvs a very talented driver and he deserves better than to win his first championship in circumstances that don’t have a massive asterisk next to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 The race directors (and those who defend that finish) will argue that Hamilton lost due to strategy, because Mercedes didn't pit him earlier in the race or when the safety car was deployed. It feels like Hamilton deserved to win today though. Michael Masi and co. perhaps prioritised having the race end at full speed rather than under the safety car. Madness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Jack Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA get fucked Toto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Lineker Posted December 12, 2021 Author Admin Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 So when is Drive to Survive out? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Jack Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Oh wow Red Bull had shirts ready! That's brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Both teams always have winning shirts printed, the running joke is that the losing team's shirts get sent out to charities. One minor thing is that I'm glad it was a Williams that caused the safety car, if it had been an AlphaTauri there would have been even more accusations flying around. I pray that this is the last year that the team principals are put on equal billing with the drivers, it's getting beyond tiresome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobfoc Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Are there any early forecasts for next season? Are Ferrari and McLaren expected to be more competitive? I know this season has only just finished, but the seasons are so long now that the next one starts in under 100 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted December 12, 2021 Report Share Posted December 12, 2021 Because of the new regulations nobody knows, although budgets usually dictate a lot so it probably won't be too far off the current set up. I can't see Haas showing up like Brawn did at the first 2009 testing session and being a second ahead of the field for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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