Going back to what someone was saying in the thread earlier: yeah, the Celts can be absolutely *awful* if you get a bad start. In the game that Ticklez, Mrs. TKz, TEOL and ADG were playing (/ still are), I got dropped on an island by myself, with only a city state right in the bottom left of the map (on a seperate island), with no gold and a load of jungle. There was legitimately nothing I could do other than fight off Barbarians, which meant that TKz blitzed past me in terms of religion, which was the only thing I could do really as a game strategy, because my production is terrible.