TOG

You should really add ECW.

We've already discussed this. ECW was dead by the time this scenario starts. Hell, Paul Heyman was on commentary duty at Wrestlemania X-7, which is the starting date, more or less, of the scenario.

And Kevin, just for reference the data is designed to be accurate up to April 2rd, 2001, the night after Wrestlemania X-7. I know it's a bit awkward, considering the way the data works and you have to start on April 1, the day of the show itself, but I consider X-7 to be the end of an era, and thus the best place to start. Just so you know, that's why the titles/dispositions are set to what they were post-Wrestlemania.

For anybody who has asked, work is continuing on the scenario, I've just slowed down the pace of it a lot. I was getting burned out, doing so much. Fortunately, the bulk of the "absolutely required" work is done and, having played through until February of 2002 so far, I can say with honesty that the data plays pretty well.

There will be another update, but it could happen a week from now, or a month from now. Who knows.

Love the idea, hate the top part though.

The last time I went off of guitar music, it was Megadeth that got me back.

I'm not even sure where the comparison would start. :ohwell:

Rockin' out in a santa suit is awesome, but the song is nothing spectacular.

I think theme songs are probably the least of his worries. Realistically, the bulk of your big names would not be able to compete at your first PPV due to their 90-day no complete clauses.

Well, one would have to be a fan of country to enjoy it.

Yeah your right, I just hope it isn't one of the good character or ill be pissed lol

Dime was so adorable with his countryin'. I like it.

The following need to be added to NWA: Wildside:

Lazz, Tony Stradlin, Sean Royal, Rusty Riddle, White Trash, Omen, Keith Kohl, Kent Kohl, Rainman, Jimmy Rave, Caprice Coleman, Scotty Wrenn, John Phoenix, Onyx, Cru Jones, Romeo Bliss, Terry Knight, Stone Mountain, Jason Cross

Again, if you need any stat help, I'll be able to roune them up for you.

Here's what i've been able to do with APW:

Full Name: All Pro Wrestling

Short Name: APW

Size: Small

Based In: America

PI: 75%

Risk: 60%

Production: 20%

Advertising and Merch: 10-15%

Roster: Boom Boom Comini, Jardi Frantz, Myaki Frantz, Michael Modest, Donovan Morgan, Maxx Justice, Shane Ballard, Shannon Ballard, Robert Thompson, Boyce LeGrande, Vinny Massaro, Tony Jones, J.J. Perez, Christopher Daniels, Dalip Singh, Solo Snuka

Owner: Roland Alexander

Staff: Tom Castor, Mario Long (Referees)

There are several members of the APW roster from the time that I've been unable to find any info on, but this should hopefully be sufficient.

8 promotions IS pretty staggering. Between playing and doing other things I haven't gotten a chance to take a look at the scenario much lately, but I have some time to kill today. I think Matt is right on track with the promotions that need to be added. If you need any help let me know.

Having WCW Power Plant as a developmental camp really irks me. WCW shouldn't have a d-camp. They had a working relationship with Wildside but that had pretty much disolved and Wildside is in the game anyway.

Chuck Palumbo and Sean O'Haire should be faces.

Ric Flair could be anything. It's your call. He was a face on the last WCW Nitro, but a heel in all the shows prior to that, so I don't know if you want to count it.

I seem to remember that The Cat and Eric Bischoff are friends in real life. In which case, that should be added in the scenario. I could be imagining things. Can anyone back that up?

The George Juniour Heavyweight should be renamed to Georgia and heres a list of 2001 champions..

J.C. Dazz 01/03/24 Cornelia, GA

Jimmy Rave 01/04/21 Cornelia, GA

* Defeats Dazz and Caprice Coleman in a 3-way match.

J.C. Dazz [2] 01/09/29 Atlanta, GA

* Title held up after a match against A. J. Styles on 01/10/06 in Cornelia, GA.

Jimmy Rave [2] 01/10/19 Cornelia, GA

* Defeats Dazz, A.J. Styles, and Jason Cross.

Jeremy Lopez 01/11/03 Cornelia, GA

Id say Jimmy Rave would make a good choice but hes not in the game.

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XPW:

TV Title:

Kid Kaos was the first champion in August of 01 and held it until 2003 when Sean Waltman won it so hes the only choice for that title.

World:

Messiah and Johnny Webb both held the title I believe someone mentioned Messiah for Deathmatch so I suppose Johnny Webb for the World.

I can promise that if any of you start a band (excluding the one actually IN a band) with those names, you will all fail.

I can't see how the problem is going to be anything other than a fucking retarded user. I'm willing to bet people are far too careless because there IS a strap, and of course, the strap can't protect from everything.

Just a suggestion, but how about adding UPW to the update? In case you're interested, the stats should be, imo:

Full Name: Ultimate Pro Wrestling

Short Name: UPW

Size: Regional

Based In: America

Public Image: 15-20

Risk: 65-70%

Production: 30-35%

Advertising and merchandise: 20%

School: UPW Academy- Good Quality

Roster:Christopher Daniels, Andy Van Dam, Prodigy, Mike Modest, Jake Damien, Nova, Mikey Henderson, Frankie Kazarian, Smelly,Mike Bell, Miss Delicious, Sadyst, Nurse Cassie, Looney Lane, Savvy, Rio Storm, The Power Twins, Funky Billy Kim, Super Cute JC Scott, D-Von “PHAT” Willis, Blazin’ Benny Chong, Eric “PHAT” Matlock, Big Schwag, Scotty Saber, El Jefe, Scrap Iron Adam Pearce, Samoa Joe, Shane Ballard, Cheerleader Melissa, Bad Boy Basil, Shannon Ballard,Ricky Reyes,Rocky Romero, Horshu, Donovan Morgan, Roland Alexander, DrZan, Damien Steele, Josh Wilcox, Keiji Sakoda, Super Dragon, Denfield Gomes, Evan Marriott, Navajo Warrior, Outlaw Marshall Knox, Native Blood, Outlaw Mike Knox, Big Jon Heidenreich, Mr. Hoshikawa, Al Katrazz, Nathan Jones, Paul Bearer, Sean O’Haire, Chuck Palumbo, Chavo Guererro, Jr., Shinya Hashimoto, Shooter Tony Jones

Roster accurate as of May 30, 2001, so it's about the right time. I'm not sure if all the guys are in there, but stats shouldnt be amajor problem.

Owner: Rick Bassman

Staff: Play-by-Play Commentator Doc Marllee, Referee Rick Knox, Play-by-Play Announcer Todd Keneley, Ring Announcer Jon Ian, Referee/Booker Marty Valenza

Question (ignorance) Raven was in XPW for a time in 2001 (imdb.com look under Scott Levy) as well as 2003 is he listed in XPW for the 2001 scenario???

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0506610/

Line 20 i believe.

Yesterday, I spent two in-day games doing nothing but drinking soda. So unless someone wants to come to my house and get the insane high scores on Banana Fling and Nut Shots, I think I'm done. Though I've thought about starting a new game just so I can play up to winter and do some snowball fights and driveway shoveling.

Found something out earlier I didn't know you could do . run up to a ball on the ground and hit Square and you'll kick the ball. Still haven't figured out how to catch a ball or frisbee when playing catch. Gonna see if I cna figure out if you can do some special moves with the basketball

You can pick up the basketball with Triangle (I think, I'm not 100% sure) and you'll dribble it as you walk around. You can shoot baskets too but I'm pretty sure you never miss them unless you're too far away. Other than that, it doesn't really do anything. It's not a game like basketball was in San Andreas (Which for some reason, I can't do anymore once I beat the game, anyone else have this problem? I used to have the same problem where I couldn't work out at the gym. It would always say that I didn't need to. But after taking a long break and starting it up again, I can now work out again. But I still can't play basketball.). Anyways, I'm pretty sure you can pick up a soccer ball and throw it at people. BTW, if you kick the soccer ball and you're near someone, you'll hit them.

Everything suggested since my last post has been dealt with. I've also gotten a logo for Wildside and put it on the same background as the rest of my logos. I'll release a "2001 logos pack" with my next update, most likely.

I'm changing some things around (stats, mostly) myself as well. The next update should prove far superior to the last one.

Dunno whether this has been mentioned, but I haven't came across Al Snow whilst using this scenario.

There are actually a ton of poker movies that have come up, and have either never come to fruition or are still filming.

Yeah, it has to be about the MIT Blackjack team. They had a movie made about them but I don't remember the title. In real life, the money did not get to them and though they were found out for card counting (which is "illegal" in casinos) they went on to live prosperous lives, as far as I know. Andy Bloch was a part of the MIT team and he's rich now and plays poker for a living.

I've taken care of everything suggested so far, including the errors with people speaking. I've also done a fair amount of work on the staff (announcers and owners, especially). I'm still doing some Other Workers stats adjustments, and I'll probably be going over the WWF roster (I put a lot more work into WCW previously, hence small errors like Val Venis being American) soon enough, including some age adjustments. WCW could probably use some age adjustments as well.

Expect a major release some time within the next week. Any time from tonight through Friday, depending on when I've done everything I can think of for now.

And TOG, I'm all for adding Wildside if you're willing to help out (again). I'll get a matching logo/banner, but I wasn't into the scene then so I won't be much help. You have no idea how much I appreciate all this.

EDIT - What do you think about, in regards to WCW's contracts, leaving them all written with the exception of the guys who are on the expensive AOL Time Warner contracts? Off the top of my head (I need to research it), that would let guys like Nash, Goldberg, Buff, Lex, Sting, etc have open contracts. The idea behind it would be that everybody else accepted new contracts when Bischoff and Fusient purchased the company, but the AOL Time Warner guys, with their bloated contracts (I'll up them all to a set, high rate of 200,000 or so), have yet to do so, and it's in your hands to decide who you'll want to fork over the big bucks for.

The border on the second batch kills any hope of me liking them.

The above post was getting a little too big...

Woman should have a love relationship with Chris Benoit and a diva stat.

Tori should have a diva stat.

Precious Lucy is Canadian, and too err on the side of caution, give her a diva stat.

Madusa should have a diva stat and a hate relationship with Missy Hyatt.

Helena Heavenly should have a diva stat.

Erin Bray should have a diva stat.

Elektra should have a diva stat.

Daffney should have a diva stat.

Alexis Laree should have a diva stat.

Adara James should have a diva stat.

Ivory should have a diva stat.

And, while I normally like to be liberal and give anyone remotely attractive a diva stat because wrestling fans are easily convinced... Chyna is very questionable (she has one currently).

Low Ki should not be menacing. He has a menacing attitude, but not a menacing look.

Eddie Guerrero should not be menacing.

Steve Blackman should not be menacing.

The Sandman being menacing I have no idea about, he has the stat currently.

911 should be menacing.

Abdullah the Butcher should be menacing.

Ahmed Johnson should be menacing.

Axl Rotten should be menacing.

Balls Mahoney should be menacing.

Big Bully Douglas should (based on his name) probably be menacing.

Big Dick Dudley should be menacing.

Maybe British Bulldog should be menacing.

Dale Torborg should be menacing.

Damien should be menacing.

Earthquake should be menacing.

Glen Osbourne should be menacing.

Hulk Hogan is questionable for being menacing.

Ken Shamrock should be menacing.

Kimo should be menacing.

King Kong Bundy should be menacing.

Kurt Angle is questionable for menacing (probably not in 2001, but I would give it to him today).

Mark Henry should be menacing.

Marshall Knox should be menacing.

Masato Tanaka is questionable for menacing.

Matt Morgan should be menacing.

Mike Knox should be menacing.

Monsta Mack should be menacing.

Mr. Black should be menacing.

One Man Gang should be menacing.

Payne should be menacing.

Pogo the Clown should be menacing.

Predator should be menacing.

Red Dogg should be menacing.

Rikishi is questionable for menacing.

Roadkill should be menacing.

Samoa Joe is questionable for menacing.

Scott Norton should be menacing.

Seven should be menacing.

Tank Abbott should be menacing.

Test should be menacing.

The Barbarian should be menacing.

The Goodfather should be menacing.

Tom Howard should be menacing.

Triple H is questionable for menacing.

Ultimate Warrior should be menacing.

Vader should be menacing.

Vic Grimes should be menacing.

Viscera should be menacing.

Hugh Morrus should be menacing.

Kevin Nash should be menacing.

Kurt Angle should have shooting ability.

Randy Orton should not have the Fonz Factor.

Shaggy 2 Dope should have the announcer stat.

Bradshaw should have the announcer stat and higher charisma.

Lita should have the announcer stat.

Terri should have the announcer stat.

Abdullah the Butcher should have the trainer stat.

Homicide should have the trainer stat.

Mike Quackenbush should have the trainer stat.

Mikey Whipwreck should have the trainer stat.

Stevie Ray should have the trainer stat.

Terry Funk should have the trainer stat.

Dynamite D should have the trainer stat.

Steve Bradley should have the trainer stat.

Many people have speaking set to no who probably shouldn't, have a look at that.

Rikishi should have the booking stat.