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Parker deserved selection in his Charlton days, Chelsea ruined him in a way. I hate how they sign people that they never use. I think he's a brilliant player.

Yeah, Carrick should be picked too, but I'd rather see Parker.

Chelsea have that whole "we sign players because we can and we don't want our rivals signing them" thing going about them, which is really annoying. Players like Shaun Wright-Phillips, will be interesting to see what happens with him in the future.

I would just like to say that I'm not a donator or an admin, and I also think you're an idiot.

Haha, I love it.

I dunno if it was posted before this turned into the I hate The Slickman thread but Ledley King is out of the game against the Argies because he picked up a injury against Bolton on monday . I hope Carrick will get his chance to shine in the holding man role .

Carrick getting selected ahead of Parker annoys me.

To be honest, I think they should both be in the England squad because neither player is that much better than the other. They're both very good. I think Carrick is marginally better, but Parker hasn't really done anything of note since leaving Charlton, and has only recently started to get his career back on track.

There's no money in my bank account, so Amazon sent me an e-mail informing of this, so I won't be getting the game until Saturday at the earliest, but more likely gonna be around Monday.

Does anyone know whether it's possible to loan-list players in the Master League? I'm sure I've checked, and I'm sure I didn't see an option to loan-list them, but I wanna make sure because I have a bunch of 17-year olds who won't make the starting line-up, but I want them to play some games and get some experience.

Well, I went back to the first game I started (where I started unemployed but got bore because nobody would hire me) and eventually League One side Colchester gave me the job, and I was quite surprised to see them sitting 3rd in the table (manager jumped to Reading).

To say the team were overachieving would be an understatement, as they board wanted a mid-table finish and the squad of players were all pretty average, except for on-loan Tottenham player Mark Yeates (who by March had scored 22 goals) and former Tottenham winger Jose Manuel Dominquez, who signed on a free. These two have been my best players with out a doubt, and along with another new signing Sam Togwell, my team isn't doing terribly. Although, consistancy is a word that my team do not understand. Beat Walsall 6-1 away, and a few weeks later lost 4-0 at home against Chesterfield.

Anytime anyone mentions "greatest goals", three goals stick out in my mind and they're all scored by Dennis Bergkamp.

The goal against Newcastle where he flicked the ball round the defener, turned past him and scored with a neat finish was just pure class.

The goal against Leicester City in the 97/98 season where David Platt plays a long ball, Bergkamp controls it perfectly then smashes it into the net from a somewhat tight angle.

And the goal against Argentina in the 98 World Cup. Don't need to explain this one, as it was easily the goal of the tournament.

Pfft...KOTOR should be top ten...also, is it bad I've only played 6 games on this list so far?

Thought I'd bring this back up and see what people's opinions are on the whole ending of the House of M arc. Personally, I thought up until the last two issues of the main title, it was a big let down. But the final page of issue 7 had me intrigued. I'll write about in below just incase people haven't read it yet.

When Wanda said "no more mutants" at the end of issue 7, I thought 'oh, that will be fixed by issue 8, but no quick fix, nothing, all mutants except for those protected by Emma Frost's mental 'bubble' are no longer mutants it seems. Marvel said it would be a big shake up, and I guess this is what they meant. Never saw it coming, and never expected it to have not been fixed in the next issue. I loved the twist personally, but I'm really curious to see how (if at all) they're going to rectify it. Although, I wanna know if the ending of House of M 8 where they see Hawkeye's costume pinned up against a wall in the old Avengers mansion means anything significant; like a return from the dead maybe?

Looking forward to the follow up to House of M, the House of Decimation, which looks interesting as well.

Both New and Young Avengers have been really really good, and I'm loving the whole Spider-Woman 'mystery' thing that's going on in New. I'm liking the gay relationship in Young, as well as the whole thing with the Patriot.

Got bored with my Mansfield game (I don't like losing ) so i just continued my Arsenal one I started a little while ago.

A few games in and I've made a few signings for the future, along with a big money signing in Carlos Kameni from Espanyol for what will eventually be about £13m, but I think he's worth it. Been playing really well, and kept me in one game all by himself. Really enjoying it so far.

Do a diary too.

You know me, everytime I get a new FM a start about 5 diaries! (Y)

Started a game with Mansfield, and 2 games in have lost 2, conceeded 3 and scored none, but I'm gonna stick it out and see how I go.

Can I ask how someone can be sexy but not good looking? That seems kind of odd to me. Doesn't sexy mean you find them attractive, which also means if you find someone good looking you find them attractive, as well?

The expression "butterface" comes to mind, ie everything about her is good but her face. There are plenty of girls with great bodies, and horrible faces out there. I'm sure you've seen someone who looks great from behind, or from a distance but her face kills the whole package.

Oh, I know that, I am mostly talking about how he says he finds all black women repulsive only to say he finds some sexy but not good looking. So I was just wondering how someone could be repulsed by all of them only to find some black women sexy? That was what I found odd.

Maybe I didn't explain myself all that well, but what I mean is that I find everything from their shoulders upwards repulsive on nearly every black girl I've seen, but they can still look sexy.

Beyonce is a perfect example of this; ugly as fuck, but a great body and is sexy as hell.

I know loads of people who don't find certain races attractive. Of course there's the odd one or two that even those who don't find the race attractive would agree, but it's a general statement.

Yeah, so do I, but for exactly the same reason you mention, its why I don't write off certain races, as there are always going to be exceptions.

Very few exceptions in my experience. I think all black girls are repulsive, and (hand on heart) have never seen a good looking black girl.

Sexy black girls? Yeah, some. But good looking black girls? Never.

Atleast no Owen Hargreaves this time Though still Crouch who can't score for Liverpool against teams like Portsmouth, so he don't stand a chance scoring against Argentina.

You realise that because you've said that now he'll go out and score a hatrick? (Y)

I don't understand how Crouch ever got into the England sqaud and why Benitez ever signed him for Liverpool. Yeah, he's a tall fucker, but his first touch is almost as bad as mine!

Box for me says it can run on:

Windows 98 9E / ME / 2000 / XP

So, yeah, you should be fine with 2000.

Yeah it works fine.

Started a game unemployed, but got bored when I got to October and nobody had hired me, so I decided to quit. I'm gonna start an Arsenal game soon, or maybe some League Two side because I fancy a bit of a challenge.

The box says it will run on 2000 (Y)

Thank FUCK for that! I read somewhere it was only XP, so I started to shit myself and never actually bothered to download the demo.

But I've been playing PES5 recently and have been wanting to play more football games, so I'm gonna pop out and buy it now methinks.

Oh yeah; the demo runs for 6 months is it?

Quick question here; does this game only run on Windows XP? Or will it run on Windows 2000 as well?

Yeah, thought I'd come in here and praise Mourinho for not crying about being beaten, I mean, it's a big accomplishment for him.

Didn't see the game today, but hoping to catch some highlights at some point to see if Mourinho's "they were lucky" comments have any weight to them.

Last game I bought would be PES5 and X-Men: Legends II and I don't think I've actually stopped playing PES5 since I got it.

Has anyone got a list of the players you can buy from the PES shop and who they are meant to be? I brought a South African defender who I think is Radebe but I can't work anyone else out

If there isn't one on the Gamefaqs website, try PESfan.com, sign up and go to the forums and I *think* there's a list there.

EDIT: Classic Teams - Real Player Names

You have to sign up/be logged in on PESfan.com to get to that list. I'll type out a list of all the players in the Classic teams, and later (if I remember) I'll do the other PES shop players for the people who don't wanna sign up.

Classic Argentina

Pumpido

Oscar Ruggeri

Luiz Brown

Cuciuffo

Batista

Giusti

Olarticoechea

Burruchaga

Enrique

Maradona

Valdano

Fillol

Passarella

Luiz Galvan

Tarantini

Olguin

Gallego

Redondo

Ardiles

Bertoni

Ortiz

Luqué

Kempes

Classic Brazil

Félix

Piazza

Brito

Carlos Alberto

Everaldo

Clodoaldo

Gerson

Rivelino

Pele

Jairzinho

Tostao

Taffarel

Luiz Pereira

Junior

Dunga

Cerezo

Falção

Socrates

Zico

Rao

Bebeto

Muller

Careca

Classic England

Banks

Jackie Charlton

Moore

Cohen

Wilson

Stiles

Ball

Peters

Bobby Charlton

Hunt

Hurst

Shilton

Sansom

Adams

Barnes

Wright

Hoddles

Gascoigne

Platt

Robson

Greaves

Linekar

Keegan

Classic France

Etori

Janvion

Tresor

Bossis

Amoros

Genghini

Tigana

Giresse

Platini

Rocheteau

Six

Bats

Battiston

Lopez

Blanc

Fernandez

Tusseau

Ginola

Ferreri

Bellone

Papin

Cantona

Stopyra

Classic Germany

Maier

Vogts

Schwarzenbeck

Beckenbauer

Bonhof

Höness

Breitner

Overath

Grawoski

Hölzenbein

Muller

Illgner

Kohler

Sammer

Buchwald

Brehme

Schuster

Matthäus

Netzer

Rummenigge

Littbarski

Völler

Klinsmann

Classic Italy

Zoff

Gentile

Bergomi

Scirea

Collovati

Oriali

Tardelli

Cabrini

Conti

Rossi

F. Graziani

Zenga

Baresi

Facchetti

Rivera

Antonioni

Mancini

Roberto Baggio

Donadoni

Schillaci

Mazzola

Riva

Vialli

Classic Netherlands

Jongbloed

Rijsbergen

Haan

Suurbier

Krol

Van Hanegem

Jansen

Neeskens

Rep

Cruyff

Rensenbrink

Van Breuklen

Ronald Koeman

Van Tiggelen

Rijkaard

Van Aerle

Wouters

Erwin Koeman

Vanenburg

Muhren

Gullit

Kaizer

Van Basten

Alyson Hannigan doesn't usually get the "hot girl" roles to be honest. She usually gets cast as a cute girl, a geeky girl or a bit of both, when she wants she can look oh so sexy. Not top ten though.

As much as I hate Roy Keane, I have a bit of respect for him by saying this. Ok, maybe he could've/should've kept this between the players, but the fact he's different to players and managers today in that he comes out and basically tells it how it is, that's different.

Oh yeah, nice result for you tonight eh?

Well, another great display from us tonight, except for one or two nervy moments, we were just a class (or tweleve) above Sparta Prague. All the goals were really good as well, and I'm just happy to see us with 12 points from a possible 12 and the fact that we're through with two games to spare!

Lionel Morgan of Wimbledon. He was suppose to be really really good, but he got injured about two years ago (can't remember what injury) and I don't think he's played since.

Hopefully a patch will be released like last time. So all the teams are fully detailed.

There's already an option file on pesfan.com. You need an X-Port or a Max-Drive, but it's good. All the kits for all the teams are done. There's a couple of errors, but they're not massive.

For those people complaining about the game being slow; have you tried changing the speed?